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Bill Markle
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03 October 2018

Libertarian Health Care                                                               November, 2012 and updated

 

This was written just before and after the birth of our son, and was my take on the medical system.  I could not vouch personally for more than a few hospitals, maybe six or eight, but stories from over the years, including doctors being murdered by enraged patients or family, confirms that my views expressed here are representative. Doctors in China do not carry guns to protect themselves from patients - the government provides that service now.  Libertarians should really protest this government intrusion into health care. 

What I saw every day -

Celia Hoffman. China’s Aging Population Needs A Different System Of Care.  Stock News USA, August 22, 2016   https://stocknewsusa.com/2016/08/22/chinas-aging-population-needs-different-system-care/

 

Just for fun, I checked for stock photos of Chinese hospitals and patients and doctors.  Take a look.  I never saw anything that looked like these stock photos, not once.   https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/china-hospital?mediatype=photography&phrase=china%20hospital&sort=mostpopular

 

The fundamental problem that cannot be easily solved by Mr. Xi -  Hongbao (red envelopes) are a standard way of gifting doctors, teachers, business and government officials from whom one wants a favorable result. Story below is a few years old, but not inaccurate now -

Arku Jasmine.  Bribery serves as life-support for Chinese hospitals. Graphic Online, July 24, 2013.

 

This photo above is closer to the standard maternity hospital view - four or five women in one room, before and for a few days after the birth

 

Those who followed my reporting over a span of years noted that my attitude toward life in China changed when Qing became pregnant.  As I read back, that seems right.  My concerns then became about more than head colds and what amazing stimulus was I going to experience next week.  I was in the day-to-day lived experience of 1.3 billion other people.  Oh – one more thing.  Now, in 2018, there is no evidence that Keynes is the author of the quote below.  So, I should say, attributed to Keynes by Samuelson.  

 

Calling All Libertarians!

A couple of years ago, I wrote about Brenna and I going to the hospital to check on a chest and throat cold, and I described how easy and efficient and inexpensive the experience was. Now, I find myself in the position of Keynes when challenged by a political rival for changing his views on some issue of current affairs, retorted, "When the conditions change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

I wrote a couple of weeks ago about the preservation of the System in hospital design.
The System design, for control and power, is preserved. And really, power conservation is not so unusual. But what I want to write about now is what accompanies power conservation, and that is the conservation of stupidity and laziness and acceptance of the status quo and "that's not my job" attitude, even among people who are otherwise reasonably intelligent and have at least some modicum of training. And how the System allows for that. The System requires grinding people down.  The tools are mystery, lack of information, long lines to receive – not service, but a ticket to get service later.  Lack of information is the key.  When people do not have the ability to make sense of the System, whatever it is, they make up stories, including stories about leader power and efficacy of at-home remedies.  In the Chinese medical system, one confronts official mystery head-on.

In 2012, there began some noise about western hospitals looking to go to China – presumably in search of profits, not better health care for the world.  Even at that time, I thought – from my completely uninformed position in the American and Chinese medical markets and systems – that this was a poor plan.  To come in to a System, to have one entry point in a complex arrangement of sinews and choke points and flows of goods and patients and money – and expect to either reform the System or extract profit from it - this would seem an ultimate hubris.  Now, in 2018, I don’t see much change from 2012.  Perhaps there has been some due diligence going on.  The medical system is the government system in China.  What is private is of little consequence overall.

There are some private market hospitals in the major cities including Hangzhou, particularly for pregnant women.  We looked at a couple of them.  They are close approximations to what I would expect from a pregnant women’s hospital in the US.  I was impressed.  Qing was more circumspect.  The hospitals are designed to serve 22-year old Chinese girls, who can pop babies out like candy.  Qing was almost twice as old, and the private hospitals were really not set up for medical complications, which old moms might have.   We chose the state-owned Hangzhou Pregnant Women’s Hospital, a couple of blocks from Xihu.  I used several connections to get us a VIP room at the hospital, which usually required not only guanxi but a reservation four or five months in advance.  Calls were made, and our reservation was confirmed.  Pretty much like the Hyatt, which was also just a couple of blocks away.  The story begins -

We are at D-Day minus 1. After class, we leave for the hospital, with suitcases and bags full of household goods. The plan is to stay for a week, since the delivery is to be by Caesarian. Qing is pretty small, and she is not 19 years old. The idea has been to do the birth by Caesarian since the beginning of seeing doctors, about 9 months ago.

We got to the hospital about 1:30 in the afternoon, Qing and her sister and I, and we went to the 8th floor of building 2 to see the doctor. This is the doctor Qing has seen for the last few months, and she is supposed to do the delivery tomorrow afternoon, after lunch. Say, about 2:00. This was just a quick hello, look-at-the-stomach visit, about ten minutes tops. Then, off to pay the money. Everything is paid in advance. Makes it easier for the hospital if you have complaints or a crisis, and want to take issue with the service. They already have – not only your money, but your bank account information. No credit cards – no intermediary to assist in a dispute, a la American Express.  Cash, or direct withdrawl. The hospital can presumably drain your bank account, if they want. Not sure they need the nicety of a signature on a receipt, and, as I tell my negotiation class, so you have a receipt.  If you don’t agree with the result, or have a problem, what to do, now?  In libertarian China, cash is king.  And people have to take personal responsibility for their health care, in ways that Americans could not imagine.

At about 3:00, we were in the room and registered. Not bad, considering all the prior SBB events of the previous months. This was the process.

Signing in took only about ten minutes, as well. Much faster when people have to take personal responsibility for their medical care. I mean, there was no worry about insurance. This is due to the manner in which health insurance works in China. Instead of the insurance company standing between you and the medical establishment, the insurer simply reimburses you for your prior expenses. You collect all the bills, invoices, statements you have accumulated over the last 9 months, and submit them as a package to the insurer.

The insurer then decides how much they want to pay, and after some time, they send you money. There does not seem to be any knowledge anywhere about what insurers will pay for and not pay for – certainly, no agent standing between you and the insurer. There does seem to be general knowledge that pregnancy is not considered an insurable event – I mean, personal responsibility again – if you are pregnant, that is your doing. You probably had a hand in the deal, or were at least in some way complicit, so this puts you in a moral hazard position. You could have not gotten pregnant, had you just been careful. How can we insure against such irresponsible behavior?

So the insurance company will pay for some things, and pay for pregnancy and childbirth at a lower rate. Apparently, you don’t know what they will cover or not, and there is no negotiation involved. As with many things in China, you simply take what you get. If you want to know why something did not get paid, you confront the system. Don’t forget the end-of-discussion put-off - "No why.”

The pay-in-advance health insurance system does have additional benefits for the insurance companies. Can you keep straight all the invoices and bills for medicine, and doctors, and tests, and hospital visits, for a major surgery? Think you might misplace one or two in the battlefield chaos that characterizes walking around the hospital in China?  You are standing in line, to pay, to get a number, to see the doctor, to get a test, running from floor to floor without clear directions as to which office to go into, all the while keeping your medical records and receipts and schedules in a clear plastic pocket file.  You know, the kind of files that you might put receipts in, to add up at the end of the year to do income taxes. That is the preferred means of storing medical records here.  All this running around is done while pregnant, and fighting through the hordes of people all trying to do the same deciphering of the System.  God forbid you should have to go to the bathroom somewhere in the process, and lose your place in line.  You are constantly taking pieces of paper out of the pocket file, putting paper in, showing to this clerk or nurse or that one, making sure the paper is stamped, and stamped properly.  Think you might misplace a receipt?

 Suppose you do manage to keep all the receipts. Copy machines in China are business equipment. Most people do not have one, and do not have easy access to one. You don’t just ask someone to make copies of a stack of bills for you. There are actually some copy stores, but they are very few and very far between.  I have seen two in Hangzhou, one at the university and one close to a building that has offices for foreign companies in a wealthy part of town.  So when you send in your bills to the insurance company, you almost certainly don’t have copies. Bye-bye evidence of anything. And, since you cannot contact anyone at the insurance company by phone, or text, or email, the companies don’t have to really worry about someone questioning their calculation of your benefits. And if you need a duplicate bill, are you really going to go stand in line for another couple of hours at the hospital to do that? Take a day off from work to run through the labyrinth? Maybe better to just eat some bitterness, as is the age-old phrase in China.

The insurance companies make out ok in another respect. The sheer volume of crowds, and the delay, and the personal care
of medical records (with attendant possibility of loss, or false recording, or missing information) mean that many illnesses that are covered by insurance probably do not get treated, or they get treated to a very low level of quality. The government claims that 95% of Chinese have health insurance.  That is no doubt true, as true as any statement in extremity can be.  

Cost savings from lost records, geographic isolation, and extremely limited coverage are passed on to the government and the insurance companies.  And really, what good is an insurance system that can’t make money?  In China, we should always be thinking of the greater good – that of the government.   

Take heart attacks, or cancer. No doubt whatsoever that
the crowds and delay and general incompetence – not to mention lack of availability and coverage -  kill a lot of 
men before they would die in some other parts of the world.  We have a new hospital not ten minutes driving from our apartment.  But in the difficult world of traffic and non-yielding of drivers to emergency vehicles, that ten minute trip could easily expand to an hour or more.
And don't forget that the largest businesses in China, including
the health insurance companies, are state owned. So the
 government and the companies have some common interests -
they have moral hazard problems, as we say in micro class.
The State designs the health care system. The insurance
 companies live in it. But both have an interest in keeping medical care costs down. I am not trying to be too flip about this - a little, but not too much - the organizational
 design reminds me of the joke about hitting a pedestrian 
with your car - better to kill him, than injure him. Back up and roll over him again, if you need to. The State designs
 the system for delay, and inattention, and grinding. The State 
helps the insurance companies by keeping too many people 
from getting care that is too good. Good care would mean more costs for the insurance companies. Lower profits mean lower GDP growth.  

In the US, we have had the discussions about providing health care for most Americans. The concept is that providing decent preventive care, and decent routine care, will prevent much more costly emergency care when there is a crisis. But this is different systemic thinking than in China.  The health care system does not work well for many people in either place; but I venture to say that the system works better for the majority of people in the US, even at ruinous costs in premiums, than it does in China, where premium costs are less but service and availability and coverage and information are much less.  

Keep in mind that we are living in the capital of one of the three or four wealthiest provinces in China. We are in the Zhejiang Province Pregnant Women's Hospital, a four star rated hospital that is generally acknowledged here as the best place to be.

So other hospitals, in other places, are not as good, even in Hangzhou. And there are other cities in Zhejiang Province. And there are other cities in China. And there is the rural countryside, where some medical care is now provided but sort of at a "first-aid" level of service. There is a lot of faith in folklore and tales and medicinal herbs and Chinese culture, though. The New York Times has a story this week about the crisis conditions in medical care, including overcrowding, lack of insurance coverage, and violence.   The lead story is about a man in Beijing mixing medicine for his mother from chemicals he purchased online, because the cost of the medicines was far too high.

In the US, the insurance companies want the government to provide coverage, or demand that people buy it. The companies will make out like bandits - more customers, more profits. But in China, my guess is that there is no such
push from insurance companies to provide more health coverage for rural people, or to improve the level of carefor urban people. More coverage for rural people just means that the government has to pay more to the insurance companies for the care. A higher level of care would mean that some people would live longer, and require more services. And improving the quality of care would just cost more money. Where is the benefit? How does providing more care improve GDP?

You begin to understand how big companies in China can be
so profitable. I mean, there are plenty of other reasons -
sweetheart contracts, and soft budget constraints on state-owned companies, and cooking the books, if needed. But
costs of providing services, whatever the business, are low -
labor costs are typically 70% or so of business costs, even in the US.  In China, land costs are a much greater portion of overall costs than in the US – either acquisition costs or rental costs.  And labor is cheap in China, even with rising salaries and some overstaffed organizations. And, in general, the level of service provided, in relation to the costs, is poor.  For many things, the costs to the customer in China are higher than in the US - cars, apartments, clothes, electronics, household appliances, furniture. There is a large
enough middle class to pay for the extra costs. But there is a huge part of the population that is left out of the market, and no short term way to bring them into the market. And, even
if a couple of hundred million more people can be brought into
the system, the quality of what is purchased is often quite poor.
You remember me bringing suitcases full of cosmetics, vitamins, baby formula, and electronics to China.
All the same goods are available in China, same packaging, quite possibly made in China, but people in China trust what is made in
the US, or at least imported into the US from China and thensent back to China, more than the same stuff made in China and distributed in China.
The lack of enforcement of quality controls, inability to control the supply chain, lack of enforcement of intellectual property laws, and the lax treatment of copying, means that people in China have no
confidence that the Louis Vuitton bag in the LV store in China is really an LV bag – or that the drugs purchased in the Watson’s, or the hospital pharmacy, are real. And they have no confidence that the
Elizabeth Arden face cream, or the Robitussen cough medicine,
same box as in the US, same labels, is not made in some
garage using waste products for raw materials. So, the same model Mercedes Benz car that is made in Germany costs much more than the Mercedes Benz car made in China, and the difference is not in import fees and shipping.

So, suffice it to say that the level of service in the hospital reflects the design of the culture. The System is designed for mystery and conservation of power.  The System is designed not to provide information, not to make personal decision-making easy. When people cannot get the information they need to make decisions, they resort to whatever might seem to give them a hint as to quality – rumor, online evaluations (even if those, too, are fake), smell, trust obtained through personal guanxi.  The result is a herd instinct – quality detected in one arena leads to great market demand, and distortion of prices.  There is a saying about quality in China – “People don’t know.  Money knows.” Meaning that price is a strong indicator of quality.  That might be more true in China than in the US, with its regulation and inspections and ability to sue and free media. 

The room in the hospital is actually sort of ok. We are paying an extra 40,000 yuan, or so, for one of the VIP rooms on one of the upper floors.  The VIP rooms separate the officers, as it were, from the enlisted men. The lower floors have the enlisted women’s delivery and recovery rooms. Four or five women to a room, beds lined up like in an episode of MASH, although with the beds closer together and probably not quite as sanitary as the MASH units actually were.

We have one of the officer’s quarters rooms. Bright, lots of recessed lights, flat screen tv, microwave. As befits the Chinese interpretation of hospital room as hotel room, there is a mini-fridge, a bathroom with one of those Japanese electronic toilets that do all those things that we don’t really know about, and you are afraid to push any buttons because you don’t know what might squirt you and with what and where. And lots and lots of closet space. More than in our apartment. Shelves, places to store boxes, like people are moving in for a week. Which, actually, I guess, they are. There is a couch that folds into a bed, for the spouse or relative to sleep on. There is one not so nice chair, and a small dresser. The afternoon light is good, and we are high up enough to get only background traffic noise, which to me is ok - some awareness of what is going on outside, while our own intense attention and activity is happening inside.  

It turns out that we needed the closet and shelf space.  I did not understand why we left our apartment in Hangzhou with so much … stuff – towels and bed linens and plastic bowls.  Turns out that we have rented a hotel room, although a fairly low class hotel at that.  Customers bring their own bed linens, towels, bowels for washing and cleaning.  The hospital provides very nearly nothing except a bed with one set of sheets and blankets. 

It is now 4:15 in the afternoon. Qing is off doing other tests, ultrasound, blood tests. When she returned, I thought that we could order food from the hospital for lunch, or dinner.  Wrong again.  Our hotel room is not American plan.  If a patient wants food, any food, the patient’s family brings it in from outside.  It is up to the family to make sure the patient gets a proper diet, even after an operation -  again, taking personal responsibility for health care.  And again, this is the VIP room. 

Events for tomorrow are shaping up as follows – morning, nothing. Watch tv. After lunch, about 1:30, the main events begin. Operation will take about 90 minutes, including recovery time, and they don’t give Qing any relaxant, or pill to get her a bit groggy, much before the operation. At this point, I am expecting to have some details to report by about 3:00 our time.

Signing off for now. More when events warrant.

Update. At 2:00 AM, Qing's water broke. She called the nurse, using the call button. Nurse comes, surveys the situation. Does nothing. For those of you who have not figured this out yet, China can be a libertarian's wet dream. It is personal responsibility all the way. As I mentioned before, the hospital room is really more like renting a hotel room. There is a bed, and some closets. But no towels, cups, glasses. One

bottle of nearly empty hand soap. As with a hotel room, there is a shower with small bottles of liquid soap, shampoo, some
other kind of lotion. But no washcloths or towels. There is one box of tissues, and a reasonably full container of toilet
paper, but those items are not replenished when empty. Bring your own. What was in the room when we walked in was left over by the previous tenant.
Personal responsibility dictates that you bring your own towels, washcloths, tissues, toilet paper. The hospital provides a room, and a once-a-day change of sheets.  If the sheets get soiled, or wet – as in, a pregnant woman’s water breaking - well, too bad. You should have thought of that when you moved in. Wait until tomorrow to change the sheets.

So, back to water breaking -

There are people here who walk around with white uniforms, and are called "nurses," but I doubt their competence. They refuse to answer any but the simplest questions, and they refuse to do any work. So the "nurse" who comes in to survey the damage from the water breaking does so, I think, only so she can file a report saying that the water broke. All the clean up, all the replacement of sheets, is done by anyone else in the room other than the people who are paid to work at the hospital. Same thing for assistance in bed pan use. In the hospital in China, you make provisions for your own bed pan changes. Personal responsibility. When the water breaks, the only reaction of the nursing and doctor staff is to ask us - us - whether we want to wait for the regular doctor, at about 2:00 PM as originally scheduled, do the operation now, at 2:00 AM, or try to do natural child birth.

The question is presented as you would ask someone if you want fries with that, and the answer is expected to be about as thoughtful. No questions allowed, other than the most simplistic. No information on what others do, no consideration of age or particular situation, no consideration of progress in having contractions. Personal responsibility. You decide about your medical care. When you decide, the hospital will deliver the goods, as it were. But you cannot ask about consequences, you cannot get information on common practice, you cannot ask what someone with - you know, some medical training - would do in a similar circumstance. For us, the demand for a decision is a false choice, since there is no harm in waiting at least until the morning, and that is what I suggest to Qing. She agrees. So we wait.

There are bed mats, of a sort, that one can put under a person who is draining anything, to absorb the liquids and sort of prevent the patient from having to lie in his or her own excretions. You can buy them in the stores in the US, for use at home. You change them as needed.

The retail market for such mats is big in China, because people have to bring their own to the hospital. And, you know, if you bring it, you should install it. So the nursing staff will not change the mats. You can throw the used ones in the corner, and maybe tomorrow someone will come by to pick it up. This is the VIP level of service in one of the most sophisticated hospitals in Zhejiang Province. God help you if have only one person to assist you in the hospital. You need two people to lift up the patient and remove the used mat and put the clean one underneath.

Which brings up a larger question - what happens to the person who does not have two or three or four family members who do not have to work, who can take days off at a time to provide round the clock care to a relative in the hospital? No doubt that such people have a high rate of death from hospital infections or other complications. But no need to worry about the hospital - personal responsibility. No worry about malpractice lawsuits.

The suggestion of trying natural child birth is an interesting proposal. In the prior 9 months, no one thought that natural child birth would be a good idea for Qing, given her physical size and age. Now, you know, neither the doctors nor the nurses nor the hospital generally have any information about Qing whatsoever. Patients provide their own medical history and "chart" information. The hospital has approximately the information that a hotel would have about its customers.  So I suppose one could forgive a 14 year-old candy striper volunteer for making the natural child birth suggestion to Qing and me. But that is not supposed to be the sort of person we are dealing with. We are supposed to be talking to a "nurse" - one with surgical or at least obstetric experience - we are on the VIP floor of the Pregnant Women's Hospital. So the only justification I can see for offering the natural child birth option is that the hospital would make more money. Now it is true, with natural child birth, the delivery cost is less, and a woman only stays in the hospital for 3 days instead of 7.  But as is often the case, I think Chinese are playing a different game than we would play in the US. A personal responsibility game, I think. If you begin the natural child birth, and then have to switch to the Caesarian, then the hospital charges you for both procedures. I knew that. Trusting soul that I am, I asked that question a few days before, when we did the tour of the VIP floor. Beat them at their own game, that time, I did. So the suggestion to try natural child birth is actually to request an upgrade in service, albeit one that might end up costing us double. But, you say, what about the difference in the money received for 3 days hotel room rental instead of 7 days? Doesn't that still provide a loss for the hospital, if you opt for the natural over Caesarian? Not necessarily. You have to consider turnover. If the hospital can process two births in the time once reserved for one, the marginal increase in payments to the hospital is not so marginal. So - the hospital proposal is, try the natural child birth, which, if you find you cannot do it, we charge you for two births; and if you do the natural child birth, and it works, we can squeeze another customer into the schedule, with another birth and the attendant extra costs.

There are other complications. Our doctor, who works every day at the hospital, and only sees patients with a fair amount of guanxi, and probably sends most of her customers to the VIP floors, does not seem to have the same status on the VIP floors as the doctors assigned to the VIP floors.  Perhaps this is because our regular doctor gets different kickbacks than the full time doctors on staff – I really don’t know, but that is a fair guess. The regular doctors assigned to the VIP floor get an end of the year bonus if they take business away from the other doctors, or something. Only speculation on my part, but I am confident that such a system could be possible. So the nurses on the floor are sort of pushing us in the direction of not waiting for our "regular" doctor to do the operation. The nurses probably get a cut of the doctor's bonus.

Qing wanted to wait, but the contractions started coming pretty often, and by 7:00 AM, we are down to four minutes, lasting about two minutes.
We decide to do the operation now. The hospital staff concurred with our excellent decision – get Qing in and out early, and perhaps the regularly scheduled caesarian schedule could still be maintained.  A woman comes by with a bed, to transfer Qing to the operating room. The woman does nothing. We (Qing's sisters and I) transfer Qing to the bed. The hospital woman stands there. We put the railings up on the sides of the bed, and we wheel the bed down the hall. The woman does provide directions, though. I have to give her credit for that. Real personal responsibility would have demanded that we stop and ask for directions to the operating room, a couple of floors away.

Contempt is the word that comes to mind - my feelings about the hospital and staff. I know they are subject as well to the System grinding down process, but I cannot feel sympathy for their situation, since I detect none in them for us. I asked, or Qing asked, a "nurse" about the frequency of contractions, and strength, and duration. All are indicative of progress in birth process. I know that to ask such questions is high impertinence, but that is just who I am. The "nurse" was able to tell us that contractions five minutes apart were closer than contractions that were 10 minutes apart. She did volunteer, though, that stronger contractions were more significant than milder ones. She must have taken the extra credit classes in nursing school.

When we get to the operating room, all is ready – if they can start by 7:15, they can finish by 8:00 when the regularly scheduled customers start to arrive.  The doctors give Qing a sedative and anesthetic.  They start to cut on her stomach before the anesthetic fully kicks in, but that is ok.  The doctors remain on schedule. 

Ben is born about 7:45 AM, November 2, 2012.  He is fine, and Qing is as fine as she can be, given what she has gone through. 

At one point, about 1:30 in the afternoon of November 2, when Qing and the baby are trying to sleep after a trying morning, three different "nurses" came into the room in a span of about 25 minutes. This is what they did - one turned on the lights and woke everyone to check Qing's blood pressure - which is already being constantly monitored on a screen, and certainly does not require turning on any lights; second one comes in to wake up Qing to tell her that her blood test from a couple of hours ago was ok; third one comes in to take the baby's temperature, waking him up in the process. My guess is that in the US, the over regulated, too-expensive US, one nurse would be able to handle all three of those difficult tasks. She might come in just as you and the baby were trying to sleep, and turn on the light, but it would only happen once. By the way, this sort of invasion happened again, later in the afternoon, when again all of us were trying to get some sleep.  

At about 4:00 in the afternoon, the "nurse" who is supposed to show us all how to put the baby on the nipple, found that the baby had pooped, and the diaper needed to be changed.  I have already told you that "nurses" here do virtually nothing - they do not change out catheter bags, for instance - again, more taking personal responsibility for health care - but this "nurse" proceeded, probably against the training of the last 60  years of Chinese culture, to change the baby's diaper for us, wiping off the poop from his butt.  She did, however, expect to stop after two cursory wipes, when poop was still stuck everywhere on the kid's bottom. I had to go from spot to spot, pointing out, three times, where this (deleted) "nurse" had yet to actually clean the kid off. If the kid got diaper rash, no doubt they would blame the foreigner parent.

Not changing out catheter bags, by the way, means that the family has to bring several plastic bowls, pretty big, to the hospital.  So that is what the plastic bowls are for – to catch drainage or leakage in process.  At least one to empty out things like catheter bags, or maybe store the soiled bed mats until someone can come by and take them away. My plan is to just dump all the waste outside the door, and let someone else clean it up. I think my years in China have taught me how to be more Chinese.

There is, by the way, no distinction between garbage and medical waste. Needles, used bed mats, feces, piss, anything with human excretions goes into the ordinary garbage. The people who do work in the hospital to clean this all up also have to take personal responsibility for their own medical care. If you get stuck by a stray needle, or some infection from dumping out the garbage, well, you should have thought of that before you took the job.  Caveat emptor.

Pain management does get a high level of attention in the Chinese hospital. The key goal is to keep costs down, so patients are expected to just sort of grin and bear it. It is now Saturday morning, about 24 hours after the birth. Qing has been in some pain since yesterday afternoon, at the site of insertion of some drip. She has asked for something for the pain, but the "nurse" came in, talked to her for a moment, and assured Qing that everything was ok.  Pain should just be overcome, like a good communist soldier. For the cause. 

And that is the end of it. Qing sent me home for some sleep last night. No doubt that I needed it, but I think she also sent me home to keep me from physically harming a "nurse" who tells me that pain is ok. Grin and bear it.

The thing that knocks me out is that the population goes along with this lunacy. If the "nurse" says it is ok, well, then. It is her experience that triumphs the pain of the individual. The patient is just supposed to be more stoic, more Buddhist, more Daoist, I dunno, offer it up to Jesus, or something. Grinding.

I am convinced at this point that it would have been less expensive, and more efficient, and with higher level of care, if we had just rented a regular hotel room in a hotel, and then hired a doctor and some real nurses to take care of Qing and the baby for a week. I would be willing to fly them over. There are reports of good expat hospitals in Beijing and Shanghai. But so far, not in the capital of one of the three or four richest provinces in China. After all, China is still a developing country. And for all those libertarians in the US, maybe progress in medical care in China has gone about as fur as it can go.  Like the World's Fair in St. Louis in 1904.  With regard to personal responsibility, it is about the best of all possible worlds. 

Some liberal bleeding heart reading this in the US might want to stick up for the underdog hospital and medical system in this story. After all, it is a different culture. It is China. Chinese women's bodies are different from those of women in America, I am told.  I don't understand the culture. I don't understand the wisdom of the System.  5000 years of Chinese culture. After all, 1.3 billion people got born here in the last 80 or so years.  All their moms got through the process. Why should I impose my western standards on China?

This is the point at which the cultural relativists, already in agreement with the libertarians on a lot of issues, have a problem with medical science and basic personal choice. Many women in China who have the means opt to go to Hong Kong, with western medical standards, to give birth. Screw 5000 years of culture. When I am in pain, give me medicine. When my baby needs care, give it to
her. Don't tell me that pain or infection or inattention is God's will, or Fate.  I am choosing not to believe Todd Aiken, the Republican congressman from Tennessee who claimed that in the case of “legitimate” rape, women’s bodies “just have a way to shut that whole thing down.”  In the cases of "legitimate" pregnancy, I don’t think women should just suck it up and bear the pain. Political scientists talk about two choices for people in a society - voice, and exit.  Express your desires, work for change, or leave. The first choice, voice, is not doing Chinese women any good just yet. So, if they can get out for pregnancy and delivery, they get out or they finangle their way to more guanxi than I have. 

I have been referring to the hospital here as a dongwu yi yuan - an animal hospital. But that is really unfair, to the animal hospitals in the US. Yes, it is true that people get treated like animals, and their personal care and time mean nothing to the System. Only the processing of people matters. There are pretensions to the contrary. The floor on the VIP floor is pretty clean. The lights in the hallway are bright. There are some plants, and I can look down the hall and see a "nurse" walking, but no horde of humanity pushing to cheat their way in line or get theirs before someone else does. But as with many things in China, the cleanliness and newness are form over substance.

Enough for now.  Written on my hospital breaks, when the niece and sisters are taking charge of changing catheter bags, and washing the towels that we brought to wipe off Qing and the baby, changing diapers, and bed mats. They really are much better at all this than I am. After all, it is China. They have much more of a sense of personal responsibility.

Economics and Business Blogs

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Economic and Business Blogs

 

These are sites I look at every day –

Blogs from well known macroeconomists –

 

https://www.nytimes.com/column/paul-krugman     The Paul Krugman blog is no longer active, but the archive is available  http://archive.fo/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com

Brad DeLong  http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/ 

Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabarrok  http://marginalrevolution.com/

Mark Thoma  http://economistsview.typepad.com/

http://www.voxeu.org/

Below are more business oriented sites, but Naked Capitalism is very good on economics and the links are usually good, usually several pieces on China or Europe.

Ives Smith (Susan Weber)  http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/

Barry Ritholtz  http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/

Resources

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+ - Economics Blogs Click to collapse
+ - Party News Click to collapse
+ - Australian National University ANU and related Click to collapse
+ - History, Language and Culture Basics Click to collapse
+ - Contemporary Economics, Governance, and Law Click to collapse
+ - Economics and Cultural History - Interpretation Click to collapse
+ - Work on contemporary China, academics and journalists but in the popular media Click to collapse
+ - Work on contemporary China, mostly in the popular media Click to collapse
+ - Philosophy, Daoist and Confucian Studies Click to collapse
+ - Political Reference Documents Click to collapse

About

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Picture captions -  Lobby chandelier, Intercontinental Hotel, New CBD, Hangzhou; this is one of the most beautiful and dramatic indoor spaces I have ever seen.  Goes to show what you can do with a great deal of money and thoughtful planning.  

Gan'en Church construction in 2013, Xianfu Lu, Yuhang District, Hangzhou; this church was under construction for a couple of years, and operating when we left Hangzhou.  Don't know of its status now, under the new regime.  CCP members compare the current environment to that in the Cultural Revolution. 

Rusting railing on 40,000,000 yuan villa, Hangzhou; new construction is easy; maintenance is hard.  One sees that repeated endlessly in the new China and in many ways.   And background, Tang-era paining, no author credit.  I liked the reflection, as it were, of aspects of the modern in the painting.  The Tang is one of the celebrated dynasties of China, for its development and openness.  

 

About me –

 

Moving to China in 2009 was a life changing experience for me … and actually, the life-changing began when teaching Chinese government officials at Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago in 2003.  The students were getting a master’s degree in public administration.  I was teaching courses in real estate, regional economic development, public policy and negotiation.  I also began long friendships with many of the students, now in senior positions in governments in Zhejiang, Liaoning, and Yunnan provinces.

Before that, a mostly Chicago career – bachelor’s in civil engineering (Notre Dame) but only a little actual practice in engineering (I did design a bridge deck supporting a hot metal car, pouring into ingot molds at Inland Steel in Indiana) ... masters in urban systems engineering and policy planning (Northwestern) and some significant experience in transportation system modeling and planning (modeled relocation of the Rock Island commuter trains in downtown Chicago) … PhD in public policy analysis (University of Illinois-Chicago) and much work for Chicago neighborhood development organizations at the Center for Urban Economic Development (UICUED) – created an organization of suburban mayors for information sharing, advocacy, and cost reductions … experience in commercial and light industrial real estate development for my own account and some clients, including the Fulton-Carroll business incubator in Chicago … teaching at UIC and IIT.  Twin daughters, Brenna and Rachel, now grown, and for you sniggerers out there, a six year old son, Ben.  I live in Evanston, Illinois. My wife is Chinese.  Already more than you wanted to know, but there it is.

I am William D. Markle.  I hope you enjoy the blog - stories and analysis.

 

About the site -

 

Maybe it is the Golden Mean.  Or the Golden Rule.  Or the Silver Rule.  Or the Middle Way, or "moderation in all things."  My China experience, while wonderful and life changing, was also a celebration of seeing China with a wide lens. I celebrated holidays in farmhouses with dirt floors and in government-only hotels and restaurants and resorts.  I ate street food and government-only rice and vegetables (only for vice-mayor levels and higher, those for whom the pollution of the food chain mattered).  The term for the salary and job classification for my Chinese government students was, in fact, "midlevel."  Some importance in their jobs, perhaps a lot, but not yet a vice mayor of a large city or higher.  Some of them attained that higher status when they returned to China.  I taught at Zhejiang University of Science and Technology (ZUST) which is a middling level school in Hangzhou.  ZUST is a provincial level school, not one of those supported directly by the central government, like Tsinghua or Beida. I always thought of ZUST as the Western Illinois University of Zhejiang Province.  I am wont to think that Daniel Bell, the political philosopher with pet CCP status at Beida, would benefit by getting out of Beijing and getting his hands a little dirty.  My school in Chicago, Illinois Institute of Technology, for all its talented and very smart teachers, is a level 2 research university - not Northwestern or University of Chicago, but the next level.  Chicago is, in fact, in the middle of the US, with the conflicts that cities on the coasts can wish away with money and ideas from outside.  We are a version of middle America.

My students at ZUST were a broad mix, including the foreign students from every place that China was doing resource and infrastructure deals, all over Africa and the -stans in the ancient middle east, plus Germany, Spain, Romania, Finland, and a couple other European nations.  But not one student, in seven years, from the US, Australia, New Zealand, or Japan.  Two or three from India, a bunch from Indonesia.  I had Chinese students from very poor economic backgrounds in the countryside, and I had a student apologize for coming back to school a couple of days late from a Qingming vacation - his parents had taken him skiing in New Zealand. I taught economics, modern Chinese economic history and negotiation in the business school, and some urban planning courses for the civil engineers and urban planners.  In a bizarre period, I taught an American history course and then an American politics course to civil engineers who wanted to go to the US for a joint program.  I used the Eric Foner Give Me Liberty! as a text, which caused no end of discussions with the CCP leaders about why that book with that name and then how to import the book into China. 

These are stories from over the years of teaching, in Chicago and Hangzhou, on trips with my government students and with friends in China, and then some analysis (soon to come) of my understanding of what makes China and Chinese so different.  As to the name of this site - as China develops, we see reflections of our own history, and as China pulls past the US in many ways, we see part of our potential future.  It is inevitable that two very large countries will have some similar problems, and sometimes similar solutions.  In both the similarities and the differences, we can learn.  I hope to advance that project. 

The view from the middle is the most informed view, I think.  There are plenty of foreign teachers at the big name schools in China - in Hangzhou, Zhejiang University.  But sometimes the view from the top makes one squint too hard to see the bottom - as if one can see not wisely, but too well.  No doubt many will say that I am not seeing too well in any case.  I hope you enjoy the site, and learn some things.

 

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What is Chineseness? – a working definition

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What is Chineseness? a working definition …

If you are a laowei, a foreigner, and you can speak a little Chinese, and know a little history, people will tell you that you are half Chinese. It’s a nice compliment, but don’t be fooled. You aren’t half way there. Many Chinese, many foreigners, have written about what it means to be Chinese. No one has a simple definition.  Geremie Barme, the preeminent China scholar at Australian National University, tells us that "today Zhonghuaxing 中华性, ‘the ineffable nature of that which is Sinitic’ has been used to denote a kind of Chinese cultural essentialism, with overtones of ‘racial’ uniqueness."   That sounds right to me.

As a working definition, I am using this -

Chineseness seems to be a certain detachment from modernity even while modern, an insouciance that borders on being oblivious, and a deep respect for cultural traditions that may have fallen by the wayside elsewhere, with a level of care within the family that is surprising and a level of disinterest in others that is equally surprising.

We can start with that. I hope to show aspects of this definition in the chapters that follow.

Chineseness good and bad is going to open doors and minds in the next hundred years. We should begin learning now.

How I Got Here

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How I got here …

 

I took 25 Chinese government officials out dancing at a Chicago club called, ironically, the Funky Buddha.  Not everyone had brought their picture ID to gain entrance at the club.  So we pulled the old Chicago high school getting-on-the-bus-with-one-student-bus pass trick – passing the ID back to people in the back of the line.  In 2003,  the bouncer couldn’t read the names anyway.

I was their professor.  They were my students – 25 midlevel government officials from Zhejiang Province, in Chicago for a year to learn about markets and government management. 

So beginneth the lesson – for me.  In the next 15 years, I taught, learned, studied, and lived Chinese and China. 

 

A distant mirror – in space and in time – is the way I have thought about this book.   Barbara Tuchman was a serious writer on history, which I am not.  And this book is impressionistic, not academic – how my own experience in China illuminates research.  The experience was a little unique – in Party enclaves, at Party School, discussions about moving a bridge already under construction to satisfy a Party leader, teaching in a university (not one of the top five in China), meetings with real estate developers and fighting with policemen, and attending celebratory feasts in rammed earth, dirt floor farm houses.   Often, I could hear the voices of old China hands – Andy Nathan said that might happen, Susan Shirk would agree; Derk Bodde talked about the Chinese language that way; W.T. deBary saw that as a flaw in Confucianism.  Pettis was right; and Jim Chanos and Minxin Pei need to come for a visit, if they could.

Experience is the best teacher, and we can’t all spend years in China.  But there are daily news stories, and dozens of volumes on every aspect of Chinese life and economy.  I hope to put a little energy into the news stories and the more serious books by relaying my direct experience.  There are lots of references in this book.  Very little said here can be considered new.   Putting some ideas and sources in one place in an abbreviated and hopefully not too misleading way will allow the reader to explore questions that probably would have gone unasked and unanswered without some initial exploration here.  I cannot hope to fully explore many of the ideas here, and for some, that will be a flaw.  As I write, I encounter more and more fascinating sources of information, and remember that one writer’s fluff is another’s metier.  This is an odd book, not academic (though I hope accurate) and not recent history (although I hope useful).    I hope the book is a teaser, for more investigation.

There is no discussion about Chinese art, in any of its wonderful forms.  Or food.  Nor is there much direct discussion of Confucianism, or Taoism or Buddhism.   I have chosen to talk about things that seem to be more basic to understanding of our similarities and differences.

So, one can think, America used to be that way.  I wish America could do that.  I sure am glad we don’t do that.  Why can’t we do that, and why can’t they do this?  The distant mirror will tell us about ourselves, good and bad, and help us understand our new global neighbor.  Look at the newspaper stories about China, going back to about 1999.  Back then, there might have been a story a week about China.  Quickly, though, the pace changed.  By 2002, or 2003, there was a story a day, though still not on the front page.  By 2005 or 2006, China was front page news every day.  I told my Chinese government friends that America discovered China about 1999.  They told me that there were stories about the US in China long before that.

In 2003, we hosted the first cohort of Chinese government officials at Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago.  This was a group of midlevel government managers from two provinces, Zhejiang, adjacent to Shanghai, and Liaoning, adjacent to North Korea.   They stayed for a year, taking courses in public administration, management, real estate and evaluation.

Over a span of more than ten years, the school hosted more than fifteen hundred government officials, from just about every department of government and bureau of CCP – lots of vice-directors of departments in foreign affairs, technology development zones, district and county transportation departments, water departments, university deans, urban planning departments, the organization department zu zhi bu, the propaganda bureau xuanchuanbu, the development and reform commission, the discipline inspection bureau jiwei, police departments, finance bureaus, radio, TV, and film stations, medical doctors, lawyers, chambers of commerce, and overseas Chinese affairs.  Our students – some of whom already had master’s degrees, a few with PhDs and a few lawyers and medical doctors, were smart, hard working and attentive people, in class and out, and in the US and back at home.  I was honored to become the student when I lived in their homes in China and became part of their lives at work and recreation.

In 2009 I went to Hangzhou to teach economics and urban planning to university undergraduates at Zhejiang University of Science and Technology.  Over a span of eight years, I taught more than 1500 Chinese and foreign students, and became acquainted with students from what seemed like every country where China was doing deals for minerals, oil, farmland, infrastructure construction or real estate –  Zambia, Congo, Ethiopia, Yemen, Kazakhstan, Cambodia, Indonesia, and Myanmar and Pakistan.  Romania and Syria.  A couple students from India and quite a few short term students from Germany. A few from France and Spain.  Not one American, or Japanese.  A few Russians.   Going to university in China, learning about China and Chinese on scholarship, was part of Chinese soft power in every case.

Extended over a period of 15 years, this was a wild ride for me.  The Central Ministry of Education told us – before Xi Jinping – that the goal was to have government officials return to China and be able to think differently.  I think we accomplished that.  For my students in Hangzhou, the goal was to get them to think outside the Chinese box and see past the simple “positive energy” of Chinese development that was all around us.  I think that was accomplished as well.  In return, I received an education of inestimable value.

Some have asked me for the elevator ride pitch for this book.  Elizabeth Perry, head of the Harvard-Yenqing Institute at Harvard, tells us that culture is responsible for more about growth and change than we usually think.   In looking around the world, in the US, in Europe, in Africa, in China, we see that politics often trumps economics.  I see no reason to quarrel with either sentiment, and I hope to provide examples throughout the book.   This is about culture, and about politics, and how they combine to produce what I can see of Chineseness.

Many of my Chinese government friends are as sophisticated and cosmopolitan as any New Yorker might want to be.  Many of the officials have family and friends in the US and elsewhere in the world, and a year stay in Chicago was just one more stop in a career path.  Back home, they live upper middle class American lives – home, cars, moving to a different district for a better school for the (one) kid, movies and dinners out and shopping at the mall. For some, the perks of CCP or government employment (back then, before Xi Jinping) could be substantial. For these, their lives looked like those of corporate C-suite denizens, but under a lot more pressure.  Drivers and frequent trips abroad and pressure.  And yet … and yet.  They retain something a little different, a bit of being Chinese, that makes their thinking intriguing and their perspective refreshing. It is progressive and conservative, attentive and a little aggressive, respectful of family and a little mercantile.  In China, I could see the American past and future. The Gilded Age and Hobbesian taking advantage, and better cell phones and internet technology than we had in America.  And socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.   How to describe that?

This is what I came up with.

My dad was a budding journalist whose career was cut short by the Depression and then the war.  He spent the war in England, but his brother in law was in India, helping the Flying Tigers get over the hump to China.  My dad used to hum the 1940s tune, Far Away Places (written by Joan Whitney and Alex Kramer) –

“Going to China, or maybe Siam.

Far, away over the sea …

Those far away places with the strange sounding names
Are calling, calling me.”

 

I hope he can read this.

 

I am William D. Markle.  I hope you enjoy the blog - stories and analysis.

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